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Why was my well-referenced addition removed
[edit]Today I added information on an important development at the 77th World Health Assembly about social participation and referenced it well. Why was it removed? Chalk giant (talk) 21:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- This has been explained on your Talk page. Jessicapierce (talk) 05:39, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
Withdrawing
[edit]Which countries follow president Trump and the USA? 2001:9E8:CAE5:7900:EDAB:78D5:1E82:DC94 (talk) 07:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Also, the withdrawal is not in effect yet per NYT expert, so the current state (brief mention of the executive order) is sufficient. AncientWalrus (talk) 07:40, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Per the PAHO website, the current Director is Dr. Jarbas Barbosa, not Carissa F. Etienne (section #Regional offices). 85.218.216.121 (talk) 12:38, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Done. Thank you for pointing this out. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:38, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Removing duplicate Trump exec order mentions
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I couldn't find a template to request an edit for 3RR reasons so I (ab)use the semi-protected template
I cleaned up a lot of duplicative addition of Trump's executive order earlier today hence I'm arguably at 3RR (if one doesn't consider repeat addition of existing material as vandalism). To be safe, I'm making an edit request here/start a talk section.
Currently, yesterday's executive order is mentioned in two places: membership (where it belongs cleanly) and covid (where it's less obviously placed, the only relation is that Trump already issued a similar order in 2020 which was annulled by Biden).
It doesn't make sense (in my view) to duplicate this content just because it could fit in multiple places. It seems editors don't check the whole page before adding it, assuming it's missing when they're not finding it somewhere they expect it to be mentioned. There've been in total at least 4 edits that introduced duplicate mention.
We should keep the article DRY (don't repeat yourself, except for the lead), otherwise maintenance becomes a mess, every change in wording has to be done in 2 places.
I propose to mention the 2025 executive order only in the membership section, and remove it if it's added somewhere else (it's not important enough to be repeated in the lead, yet). Currently, this means this sentence from covid response should be removed:
- In January 2025, an executive order was signed by Trump to withdraw the US from the WHO.
I would make this edit myself, boldly, but respecting 3RR and given that the repeated insertion of said content has justified semi-protection already (upon my request) I put this to talk. AncientWalrus (talk) 16:00, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Most of the Trump stuff is in the covid section, I agree it's not the best place for the new content. While the decision is remarkable, it has limited due weight on this article and warrants careful inclusion. The membership section reads well now. SmolBrane (talk) 16:07, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- I can see why editors who aren't aware of the membership mention of the order would add it to covid, because there is a nexus, but it's just not the place to be if we have to chose one (and we do, I think). To prevent future editors from redoing that same edit, I suggest we replace the sentence with a comment just for editors noting the order is already mentioned in membership and pointing to this discussion here. AncientWalrus (talk) 16:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are definitely ways of informing editors in advance--FAQs and warnings when editing and the like. I don't have experience with those so I can't help there. The dynamics specifically related to The Trump administration and the WHO are not the feature of this article and I think we agree here. SmolBrane (talk) 16:24, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed, it might make interesting material for an article of its own if/when people start adding here. Small note: I think the title ought to be Trump administrations with plural s. AncientWalrus (talk) 20:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are definitely ways of informing editors in advance--FAQs and warnings when editing and the like. I don't have experience with those so I can't help there. The dynamics specifically related to The Trump administration and the WHO are not the feature of this article and I think we agree here. SmolBrane (talk) 16:24, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- I can see why editors who aren't aware of the membership mention of the order would add it to covid, because there is a nexus, but it's just not the place to be if we have to chose one (and we do, I think). To prevent future editors from redoing that same edit, I suggest we replace the sentence with a comment just for editors noting the order is already mentioned in membership and pointing to this discussion here. AncientWalrus (talk) 16:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Regards to updating membership count
[edit]As of January 21, 2025, the United States remains a member of the World Health Organization (WHO). On January 20, 2025, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to initiate the process of withdrawing the U.S. from the WHO.
This withdrawal requires a one-year notice period, making it effective on January 20, 2026. Therefore, the U.S. is still officially part of the WHO at this time. Bamaboi445 (talk) 17:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- This is currently reflected by the article. SmolBrane (talk) 17:36, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for raising this. It was 194 members until someone edited it to 193 until that got reverted. So your concern isn't unwarranted, but it's been taken care of! But not a bad idea to have a few more eyes on future edits. AncientWalrus (talk) 20:28, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- The WHO membership map at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization#/media/File:World_Health_Organization_membership_status_map.png (and showing in this article) has currently been changed to grey out the majority of the USA. This needs to be changed back to green to reflect the ongoing status of the USA being a current member (noting that this will likely need to be updated in a year or so) 1dragon (talk) 06:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, the map is obviously wrong, I reverted both changes (one of changing the map and one of adding the map to the infobox). AncientWalrus (talk) 09:48, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Actually theres an edit war at the commons file and I did the revert there. The change from PNG to SVG here was fine. I wouldn't add the map to the infobox though. Thanks for raising the important point of the map's wrongness. Im watching it now for soapboxing. AncientWalrus (talk) 10:03, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, the map is obviously wrong, I reverted both changes (one of changing the map and one of adding the map to the infobox). AncientWalrus (talk) 09:48, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
The map is outdated
[edit]Current membership map does not show South Sudan, nor its recognized borders 2804:248:FBEE:E000:CEF:DAD:6B49:FCE0 (talk) 20:33, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
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